The most recent articles I am seeing this morning says there will be no deal made before the debt ceiling is reached as the House appears to be separating from the Senate. I for one support the move. Let the deals collapse over Obummercare or whatever. We have all of us seen where this is going to lead anyway.
Let's get this thing over with already.
No matter what, the Femocrats are never going to cave on Obummercare. They want the wealth that will be siphoned from the middle class by it. They want it so bad they can taste it and they don't care how much it adds to the phoney money FIAT deficit. This isn't about those numbers it is about real wealth and resources.
They aim to break us if they can but if it is blocked so be it they will start it now.
Then this morning I saw this posted over at Western Rifle Shooters Association
Utah Families on Food Stamps could be cut off Soon
States across the country are being told to stop the supplemental nutrition assistance program for the month of November, pending further notice.
That’s according to a letter from the U.S. Department of Agriculture. Fox 13 obtained a copy from the Crossroads Urban Center in downtown Salt Lake City. Crossroads says if Utah families don’t get food stamps, they’ll turn to the local food pantries, which are already strapped due to the government shutdown. Homeless people Fox 13 talked to, some who use SNAP, say losing food stamps would mean going hungry.
Friends. Seriously if we give in to this blatant threat from Obummer and his Leftist handlers we are dooming our children to a life of slavery. If the Republican House caves over this threat of unleashing the poor masses and minorities to violence than we have lost all power and free will. It may take them the rest of our lifetimes to get around to shackling our children by the neck but they will get there.
Either we face this pain now and possibly fight or we let them continue to rob us and shackle us and end up having to fight later or die as whimpering cowards.
This is no longer simple political grandstanding. The world has weighed in and the final positioning is in place. If the Republicans cave they will buy us a bit more time but they will also sacrifice a substantial amount of our power and resources for those brief few months.
One way or another by throwing out this sleazy slimeball move Obummer has started the civil war today. I believe History will eventually show this to be true if all the information I am reading is 100% correct.
Time to get your gear ready and get out of the cities if you can.
Keep Prepping Everyone!!!
I pray you're wrong, but ... better to be prepared.
ReplyDeleteRP - If this works as a leverage tool we are doomed. Of course they may back down or strike a deal anyway but either way we are doomed :)
DeleteI saw Auntie Nancy running her month this AM. Sounded them same. Nothing has changed. The names she called the GOP. Is what the liberals really are. I know my family is screwed, But we are better then most I have food for the next 3 weeks or so. Some are lucky if they have something for dinner tonight.
ReplyDeleteKeeping plugging away at it, Rob. You'll get there on your preps.
DeleteYa what Matt said.
DeleteThe thing is they can't use the EBT crowd as a bargaining chip. They need to cut spending but they go for the parts that will cause the most rukus first.
The longer it goes the more chance of a collapse I'm afraid.
ReplyDeleteDuke - At this point I am welcoming a collapse only because it will be less severe the sooner we get it over with. The longer they put it off the worse the end is going to be.
DeleteI'm with Rev. Paul, and hope to God that it doesn't happen yet. I would love to have some farmland away from the city, but have more food than most people I know.
ReplyDeleteK - I know what you mean getting prepared for it is a never ending process.
DeleteThis perfect for bummer, he can blame it all on someone else and get away with taking more power.
ReplyDeleteHe hopes anyway. I don't think they are gaining as much as they think they are but if he can use the EBT masses to leverage things then we have reached the point of people voting themselves more and that is the end.
DeleteIts frustrating to see the playbook progression, but have no mainstream voice that will say the things we are saying. I know we recently had some discussion regarding whether this is the worst thing to happen to the US, but it certainly appears that it certainly CAN be the tool used to leverage the worst thing. At this point, what remains to be seen is 1) whether the political right has the stones to stand fast, 2) whether the left has the ability to rein the mob back in once they cut them loose; both of these are pretty shaky, so it looms unfortunately like we may have our preps put to the test. I'm better off than some, but I'm not ready for this. Damn...
ReplyDeleteWolfman - That pretty well sums it up. Either way we are entering a new phase of this whole thing and the future is shaky at best.
DeleteIf the Republicans collapse it will be worse than if they don't.
ReplyDeleteI believe you are correct. If they cave we may have a bit more time but the end will be worse.
DeleteNo Brother, level 5 and climbing. God help America! Then again God helps those who help themselves. Get Prepped this could get real ugly,
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China - Good to see ya back! And yep it's already ugly but maybe it will finally touch enough people who have been insulated so far to get a point across. Maybe.
DeleteIf things aren't worked out many people will suffer and I'm hoping it won't get that far. At this point I read and wonder and shake my head. I can see a war on the horizon if these dim bulbs don't get their act together. People won't sit back and let their children starve.
ReplyDeleteEilleen Where ya been? Truly starving children and no where to turn could be a catalyst indeed. We are so screwed.
DeleteJust been laying low and staying out of trouble lol. I agree we're screwed. Normally there's light at the end of the tunnel but I only see darkness right now. I can see food banks running out of food for those that use those places and there would be many more flocking there plus churches and the possibility is there that the food wouldn't stretch. I guess I'm looking at the worst possible scenerio (sp) and if people riot and the folks on capital hill refuse to get along it really could get bad not to mention how other countries are reacting to this. Not that we're very popular but now we look like total fools and it's true. I do hope they'll agree come tomorrow evening. If not...take cover because all hell will break lose.
DeleteIn the mid to long term were screwed. However, I'm betting on a short term compromise. The only rational thing to do at this point is to put on a show and stall for time.
ReplyDeleteSome of the actors do seem to be getting a little unhinged; however, can kicking still has a lot going for it because there is never a good day to face the gallows. Tomorrow will always be better than today with the day after that even better than tomorrow...
With the constant one upmanship eventuality someone will miscalculate and bring it all down sooner than nessarry. But I don't think it will be tomorrow. Tomorrow we'll probably be treated to stranger crap than today; there is still room to run.
Best,
Dan
It needs to happen now. Not 5 years from now when I'm even less able to deal with it, and all of us who remember what America once was are five years older. If you are around 40-50 and have a record of paleoconservatism you are about to have wasted your entire adult life without having had a political effect. An entire generation robbed in their political prime. We have to face the fact that if we don't make the change, our vision will be gone forever. Is our vision that invalid? Do we have so little faith in it?
DeleteI don't.
At this point I am betting Dan's scenario is what will happen but I agree it would be better if it happens now overall. Get it over with but then again I am in a little better position (I think) then most so my opinion is biased.
DeleteEither way though using the EBT crowd as a tool this blatantly is a new phase of the collapse.
I wasn't stating what I thought should happen but what I thought would happen. FWIW I was aginst the ongoing bailouts since TARP. If we had of let the banksters collapse then, the recovery would already been underway and while we would most likely be poorer at the moment, we wouldn't have the sword of Damocles hanging over us. nor would we have the same sociopaths that lead us into this mess leading us into the next disaster.
DeleteBuying time is horrendously expensive. Not just in money, but also in trust. The only time it makes sense is if you have a real shot at working your way out; and we don't.
Best,
Dan
I hope the GOP holds fast, and frankly bring it on! We've been prepping for years now, and this wonderful economy of ours has been slowly bleeding our savings account with no end in sight. I'd like the collapse to happen so we can start rebuilding and moving forward. The longer we wait the worse the collapse will actually be.
ReplyDeleteIzzy - That is a very good point. We talked about that a few posts ago that really no one is better off now than they were. Everyone is slowly bleeding and eventually it has to snap. We need to get to some point where we are moving forward again even if we need to drop back to get there.
DeleteWell, I'm no Nostradamus but here's my prediction. Both parties will cut some sleazy deal that will raise the debt ceiling again. They will not cut any payments to the hoi pol-oi. It's easier to just let the creaky machine grind on down to a slow halt than to shut it down and work on it.
ReplyDeleteHarry - Looks like you were right.
DeleteHere in Oklahoma WIC and food stamps will stop in November if the government stays shut down. I read it in the paper and also heard a trashy, tramp bitching about it the other day. IMO if you cant afford formula for your baby then you should have used your boobs for their purpose, BREASTFEEDING or not had the damn half Mexican baby!
ReplyDeleteAnyway, I fear you are right, there is game being played and we the people are going to lose.
Kelly - Wait. Breast are for something other than looking at and playing with? Seriously?
DeleteAfter all these years who knew? :)
Seriously though you are 100% correct.
BTW I just noticed I was not a follower on your blog nor linked to you. I am sorry I didn't take care of that earlier but I corrected it now.
Thanks for commenting.
You crack me up! Im glad your going to follow my blog. I haven't been good about posting lately but that will change ;)
DeleteYou crack me up! Im glad your going to follow my blog. I haven't been good about posting lately but that will change ;)
DeleteWe are in full-on-prep mode now. Getting close to our preliminary goals, but everything that is not going into the pantry is going on debt reduction. I've got one semi-prep purchase planned for the DW for Christmas, and that's it.
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