Out of every one hundred Men, ten shouldn't even there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them for they make the battle. Ah but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back. .....Heraclitus
I started watching the events unfolding in N. St. Louis yesterday afternoon off and on. Having just been through this area on my way to make a delivery not but two weeks ago and stopping at that very Quick Trip you see in the picture my interest was really peaked a bit more than usual.
Seems to me the police are in between a rock and a hard place. Do I believe they shot an innocent man? Honestly I haven't a clue. I doubt it but having witnessed just as much excessive force and tyrannical behavior from police everywhere as I have criminal activity from Black males this is a toss up. Could go either way and I don't feel any particular bias at all. It is what it is, simply two groups of many that make up this country, neither of which have been anything but hostile towards my group.
What draws my attention however is the fact that these looters are the very same looters I was discussing a few days ago. The largest single sub group of the 3 million possible looters coming out of St. Louis.
This is what they will do to their own city long before they spread out into the countryside. This is the type of discipline and coordination to expect from 99% of the looting horde.
If you watch the video carefully you pick up a few other clues. For one you see a few Women outside the building being looted but I witnessed only two going in or coming out. This is in an almost completely safe snatch and grab situation with no one defending the property and yet the looting men outnumbered the women at least 20 to 1 I think.
If you are worried about a looting horde in a post collapse situation the above video gives you a good peek at what to expect and how easily even one defender could deal with it.
Now the truly dedicated, disciplined and trained looters will be another matter but their numbers will be exceptionally low overall. I would guess less than 1% of the total population.
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Ferguson has been a microcosm of the greater problem for some time, so it doesn't surprise me that this would occur there. However, your observations are spot on, my friend.
ReplyDeleteRP - Ya I think the only part of North St. Louis I ever felt safe in was the warehouse district. Used to have some actor friends that rented an old firestation up there. Let me tell you the parties were great and not a soul was seen outside all night long.
DeleteShould I be surprised that they allowed themselves to be filmed so easily?
ReplyDeleteJw - No. LOL I doubt anyone would do anything anyway. Sources I was reading said the cops were just watching.
DeleteIf there was an issue inside the car, as I've heard from the police, let's see the video or hear the audio..... or was the equipment malfunctioning as it seems to conveniently happen in so many other cases.
ReplyDeleteThe sad thing is, I tend to believe the side of the blacks in this case, but they've given up any moral high-ground they may have had by all the looting.
As too the looting, where are the Koreans up on the roof-tops when you need them....
Matt - Yep. This is a case of violent, drug using criminals v. egotistical, petty tyrant, jackboots.
DeleteI just can't get curious about who is in the right or not. Could go either way.
It seems like the logical thing would be for them to go attack an area away from their own neighborhood, Go to the suburbs and loot the place where the police live. But no, we will destroy our own area as they really don't care about anything but looting, probably half the looters would have capped the kid themselves if he crossed them.
ReplyDeleteIf this behavior holds true then in a future situation, the looting will work it's way outward but will stop when the distance becomes too great for lazy people and especially if the fuel supply is gone. All of this means that you need to be a good distance away from any concentration of people. If the situation is bad enough and Iphones/pads/tablets cease to work, then even suburbanites will start breaking and stealing things because they don't know what else to do.
Sf - Judging from what I know of that area to them it isn't like it is looting their own but more like looting the haves who own the businesses. Also that main road the QT is on is pretty solid strip malls, liquor stores, small groceries and gas stations for miles. They only really made themselves travel a few blocks more for their stuff is all.
DeleteI am not so sure about suburbanites. I mean the term sheeple comes from somewhere and there are just too many instances of regular people being lead to slaughter without so much as a whimper or attempt to escape for me to envision them looting in mass if even a few try and stop them. Even if someone got them moving as a horde they wouldn't be able to loot enough food each day to sustain them and they would mostly feed on each other I suspect.
Could be that suburban land may be the soft target that saves your butt. Why would looters travel to the middle of nowhere to get shot by a long gun while obedient liberals will just wait for the government to save them as their doors are kicked in.
DeleteSf - Exactly. There is so much territory to loot long before a mob gets even out of the metro area proper I doubt we would ever see them even 100 miles out. If it's Winter time they wouldn't make it that far. The in fighting and suburban defenders would destroy em before they made it to the boonies.
DeleteI would tend to think any successful groups of looters will tend to fall along Dunbar Numbers in size. Roughly fire team size, squad size, platoon size, and company size. Dunbar's research comes from social research, not military, but the ideal group sizes still corrispond to the above mentioned sizes. In between those sizes the group is more vulnerable and liable to break up. N.b. if you google it 150 is the upper bound not the only only stable size as most assume.
ReplyDeleteObviously the larger the group the better the leadership so it is not a quntative increase in problems but a qualitative one as well. A squad size element is a successful looting group and a platoon size one highly successful. I doubt a company size element could be supported. Not only do they need to find more food they also need to spend more time dealing with interpersonal issues.
Also, while anyone out roaming the countryside looking for a meal is a looter. Not all of them are going to be sociopaths. There would be quite a few willing to work for it. The only way to know will be to talk to them. If there is no gas, many hands make light work...
Best,
Dan
Dan - I am not familiar with Dunbar but indeed I bet social research would fit the mold better than military because 99.9% of the looters would have zero military experience these days.
DeleteI would also think average IQ levels would mean a bunch and the ability to project future time thinking as well.
And again yes. There would be a number of job opening in the ag field after a collapse I recon :)