tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8788289492661192400.post7453496354803582452..comments2024-03-25T11:19:35.199-04:00Comments on The Small Hold - Will Not Go Down Without a Fight: Sunday Reading - On MondayPioneerPreppyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09269878017447335944noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8788289492661192400.post-22948951064894471422015-02-11T22:53:19.088-05:002015-02-11T22:53:19.088-05:00Russ - Sorry guess I should have put more smiley f...Russ - Sorry guess I should have put more smiley faces out :) Sometimes people think I am being snippy when that is far from my intentions.<br /><br />Personally I don't worry much about St. Louis, KC or Memphis. those areas will pretty much cancel themselves out if things go bad real fast. There is simply too much suburbia surrounding the urban jungles and too much easy pickings close in. PioneerPreppyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09269878017447335944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8788289492661192400.post-34219765829781167952015-02-11T20:56:34.469-05:002015-02-11T20:56:34.469-05:00I was beating up on him, Pioneer, not you. LOL
Yo...I was beating up on him, Pioneer, not you. LOL<br /><br />Your have relatively close by, by my understanding, one of the most problematic urban areas in the country, and that was true long before the Ferguson fiasco. Memphis, TN is another one of those areas you hear all sorts of relatively quiet, but scary, news from.russell1200https://www.blogger.com/profile/16258915475311426433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8788289492661192400.post-57211917843391755592015-02-10T16:28:32.240-05:002015-02-10T16:28:32.240-05:00Kev - I really hoped the book would have been more...Kev - I really hoped the book would have been more focused in detail of how the community had adapted so I was disappointed. As I said this point wasn't suppose to be about the book though :)<br />PioneerPreppyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09269878017447335944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8788289492661192400.post-67403187574074714282015-02-10T16:27:31.300-05:002015-02-10T16:27:31.300-05:00TB - Thanks!!! I got called into work this morning...TB - Thanks!!! I got called into work this morning right in the middle of replying to comments...<br />PioneerPreppyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09269878017447335944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8788289492661192400.post-59914751773554399592015-02-10T10:58:06.428-05:002015-02-10T10:58:06.428-05:00For one as I said Kunstler was not even the point ...For one as I said Kunstler was not even the point of this post just a throw is an an example of work that pretty much only focused on 1 type of bad guy for whatever reason. Secondly I don't remember that part being very long at all and instead of then going on with reality he had to begin mixing in some sort of mental fantasy with it of course with a bent towards Male bad/Female good. PerhapsPioneerPreppyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09269878017447335944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8788289492661192400.post-15792012757307457362015-02-10T08:59:16.098-05:002015-02-10T08:59:16.098-05:00Sounds like an interesting book to read going on t...Sounds like an interesting book to read going on the comments.<br />I try not to voice my political opinions on my blog in part to using my real name. Maybe that was a mistake but only time will tell. Kev Alvitihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04992625860900617194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8788289492661192400.post-2954816872846847942015-02-10T04:58:54.262-05:002015-02-10T04:58:54.262-05:00Have just reread part of the first book. Race trou...Have just reread part of the first book. Race trouble and the lack of it as well as the reason why is mentioned by the preacher, by Joseph at length to Robert Earle the main charecter. He acknowledges the truth of it and mentions again to Loren the town preacher. Short of throwing in a couple of baby eating black rapists I'm not sure what you expected the author to do in a story about the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8788289492661192400.post-78526834185136416522015-02-09T23:04:05.001-05:002015-02-09T23:04:05.001-05:00Preppy, I have spent a handful of time wandering s...Preppy, I have spent a handful of time wandering sites, some that were moderately interesting or informative but ultimately had opinions or ideologies that lead to where we are. <br /><br />There is a line C.S. Lewis' That Hideous Strength in which two of the protagonist are speaking of the ill that befell the small college which is the location of the book. One of the characters pointed outToirdhealbheach Beucailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14872794169534403463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8788289492661192400.post-76190997726020718732015-02-09T22:53:07.026-05:002015-02-09T22:53:07.026-05:00Russ - My own county is less than 3% Black but tha...Russ - My own county is less than 3% Black but that doesn't mean I am ignorant of the where the problems that will be created elsewhere. Seriously though I was not necessarily speaking of just racial issues anyway. Religious, other forms of cultural etc. or routinely ignored by the greeny enviro-freaks even the ones who seem to have some insight into how things will begin to fall apart. It&#PioneerPreppyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09269878017447335944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8788289492661192400.post-2174072158979861552015-02-09T22:02:49.748-05:002015-02-09T22:02:49.748-05:00Just an FYI. Where Kunstler lives has had almost ...Just an FYI. Where Kunstler lives has had almost zero black population. The factories that were in the area opened up at the wrong time to draw on the great migrations from the South.<br /><br />Albany, the State capital has a black population somewhere around 30%. <br /><br />But, and a big but, Saratoga County, just north of Albany County, and I think where the book is set, has a 1.7% Black/russell1200https://www.blogger.com/profile/16258915475311426433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8788289492661192400.post-58089895955866681432015-02-09T19:02:42.863-05:002015-02-09T19:02:42.863-05:00Also I should add there would be other long term i...Also I should add there would be other long term issues with reloading after a collapse if there was no infrastructure for deliveries and energy for production. Bullet types alone would render many calibers almost non-usable. After the powder ran out making more is achievable but also requires many ingredients not found in most locations. No means of plating or jacketing bullets, primer PioneerPreppyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09269878017447335944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8788289492661192400.post-13136902835211520642015-02-09T18:31:29.022-05:002015-02-09T18:31:29.022-05:00Ro - I remember the head cult preacher guy saying ...Ro - I remember the head cult preacher guy saying they moved to the town because of problems elsewhere but I do not recall anyone specifically saying anything about race or the lack of it being the reason. <br /><br />As far as the Rawles comment he is a much worse "force Die-Versity down your throat" writer than even Kunstler in my opinion :)<br /><br />As far as the technology thing PioneerPreppyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09269878017447335944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8788289492661192400.post-90868596423645359632015-02-09T18:12:40.570-05:002015-02-09T18:12:40.570-05:00In the first book there were only white guys, are ...In the first book there were only white guys, are you saying that he òshould introduce a bunch of blacks to be the crims? The whole premise of the book was the premise was the town was a peaceful place to live because there was no racial problems. It really wouldn't make sense then.<br />I can from the book remember one guy who was impotent and the women were having trouble conceiving but Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8788289492661192400.post-82232323385122714642015-02-09T17:35:32.002-05:002015-02-09T17:35:32.002-05:00Ro - Making most things is easy as long as you hav...Ro - Making most things is easy as long as you have the infrastructure and civilization to do it with. Even 1700's era technology requires commerce and relatively civilized locations to produce what is needed for raiding, looting etc. <br /><br />Simply put you cannot have any eras technology without having that eras civilization. Each requires the other. My neck of the woods could more than PioneerPreppyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09269878017447335944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8788289492661192400.post-46733283890172597882015-02-09T17:19:00.014-05:002015-02-09T17:19:00.014-05:00I must admit I thought he was quite blunt over the...I must admit I thought he was quite blunt over the potential for race trouble and the positive note that they didn't have any because the town was practically white only. As for perverts and predators I cannot particularly recall any in the first book though in the second there was two but againnthe county was pretty much white only.<br />As for real issues, well it is just a book and an Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8788289492661192400.post-76273908040138809622015-02-09T16:50:24.782-05:002015-02-09T16:50:24.782-05:00Ro - Well Kunster flat out ignored tribal or racia...Ro - Well Kunster flat out ignored tribal or racial problems in the first book and really in the second too. My biggest issue with the first two were his obvious dislike for White Males and how he had to make them out to be the perverts and predators constantly while ignoring where the real issues would come from. <br /><br />I don't consider the Waco group anymore a true Christian sect than PioneerPreppyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09269878017447335944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8788289492661192400.post-8176084690254329362015-02-09T16:22:56.817-05:002015-02-09T16:22:56.817-05:00It think basically it is a christian cult. A bit ...It think basically it is a christian cult. A bit like the branch davidians of Waco type of thing. I think his basic premise is that times will revert more to the 1800s in social strata. Landowners and businesses at the top etc.with community participation on large civil projects. <br />As a place to ride out the collapse Union Grove would be a handy bolthole were it real. However given the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8788289492661192400.post-8610496402064924452015-02-09T15:25:28.812-05:002015-02-09T15:25:28.812-05:00Sf - I think many are starting to see the charade ...Sf - I think many are starting to see the charade cannot continue much longer. How many are going to be willing to see the world through non-tinted glasses though remains to be seen...pun intended :)<br />PioneerPreppyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09269878017447335944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8788289492661192400.post-27451853338085608782015-02-09T15:24:09.016-05:002015-02-09T15:24:09.016-05:00Ro - Interesting I haven't read the third book...Ro - Interesting I haven't read the third book because the second one turned my stomach a bit. If he is calling the cult with the fat mother a Christian sect then he has some issues himself but Kunstler isn't really who Iw as writing about here although he is a somewhat good example in some ways. Not so much in others. I guess basically he is trying to go the other extreme and say the PioneerPreppyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09269878017447335944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8788289492661192400.post-1140522329708996642015-02-09T15:20:20.789-05:002015-02-09T15:20:20.789-05:00Rob - It isn't so much a being popular thing a...Rob - It isn't so much a being popular thing as a truth thing. When bloggers or authors start preaching the MUlti-Cult or liberal tune to the effect it can get people killed if they believe in it.<br />PioneerPreppyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09269878017447335944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8788289492661192400.post-81360244685987566732015-02-09T15:18:46.732-05:002015-02-09T15:18:46.732-05:00I guess things will get shaken out over the next c...I guess things will get shaken out over the next couple of years. Something that I hadn't seen in prior years is that even the few obummer supporters that I talk to feel something is coming and don't have the hope that once went with the change. Sunnybrook Farmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18135224259672444423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8788289492661192400.post-27008025912105630302015-02-09T14:50:02.170-05:002015-02-09T14:50:02.170-05:00Its the Witch of Hebron. Both books and the third ...Its the Witch of Hebron. Both books and the third display the writers bias. However they do pretty much depict where we are heading. In the first book WMBH, yes I can't be arsed typing it each time,the christian sect that take up residence in the town do explain why they went to Union Grove, the town in the book, was because it was quiet, white and without race trouble that they had Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8788289492661192400.post-85872187636259138592015-02-09T14:39:31.695-05:002015-02-09T14:39:31.695-05:00I guess I don't have to worry much, I'm no...I guess I don't have to worry much, I'm not popular with folks. You have read many of my posts from my blogs. I am but a humble man who never seeks much.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16800149852939042454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8788289492661192400.post-31714360952877868972015-02-09T13:57:07.303-05:002015-02-09T13:57:07.303-05:00"A World Made by Hand" is a novel by How..."A World Made by Hand" is a novel by Howard Kunstler (I think I got his name right) that is actually a pretty good post collapse story. Kunstler himself is a kinda a big socialist Liberal guy but he managed to keep most of that out of his books but his little community lives almost in a vacuum too with little preying on others and absolutely no racial issues. His second book "The PioneerPreppyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09269878017447335944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8788289492661192400.post-717747831312593482015-02-09T13:16:00.873-05:002015-02-09T13:16:00.873-05:00Great last line PP, excuse my ignorance but what i...Great last line PP, excuse my ignorance but what is "A World Made by Hand" about? <br />JohnJohnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13845113520987402425noreply@blogger.com